Talk:Wikidelphia Meeting 2025 November - Revision history

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	*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.		*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.
	*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P		*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P
	*Maybe, discuss the "Philly's Wiki" result. ~P
	*Helpful Philadelphia.		*Helpful Philadelphia.

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	====From October====		====From October====
	*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.		*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.
	*To improve user-friendliness, consider giving P the go-ahead to add a Tips box similar to the one on SGOL.org. ~P
	*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P		*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P
	*Maybe, discuss the "Philly's Wiki" result. ~P		*Maybe, discuss the "Philly's Wiki" result. ~P

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	===To Do: JPS===		===To Do: JPS===
			*Start the Tip box and show it at the next meeting.
	*Open other social accounts.		*Open other social accounts.
	*Attend a WikiSalon meeting with the goal to "Get wikidelphia into wikipedia via wikisalon.", i.e., "Re: how to get a mention on Wikipedia".		*Attend a WikiSalon meeting with the goal to "Get wikidelphia into wikipedia via wikisalon.", i.e., "Re: how to get a mention on Wikipedia".

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	*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.		*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.
	*To expand our promotions, consider adding social media accounts, such as Facebook and Bluesky, where P can post the same messages he's posting on X. ~P [Moved to To Do:JPS.]
	*To improve user-friendliness, consider giving P the go-ahead to add a Tips box similar to the one on SGOL.org. ~P		*To improve user-friendliness, consider giving P the go-ahead to add a Tips box similar to the one on SGOL.org. ~P
	*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P		*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P

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	====From October====		====From October====
	*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.		*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.
	*To expand our promotions, consider adding social media accounts, such as Facebook and Bluesky, where P can post the same messages he's posting on X. ~P		*To expand our promotions, consider adding social media accounts, such as Facebook and Bluesky, where P can post the same messages he's posting on X. ~P [Moved to To Do:JPS.]
	*To improve user-friendliness, consider giving P the go-ahead to add a Tips box similar to the one on SGOL.org. ~P		*To improve user-friendliness, consider giving P the go-ahead to add a Tips box similar to the one on SGOL.org. ~P
	*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P		*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P

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	===To Do: JPS===		===To Do: JPS===
			*Open other social accounts.
	*Attend a WikiSalon meeting with the goal to "Get wikidelphia into wikipedia via wikisalon.", i.e., "Re: how to get a mention on Wikipedia".		*Attend a WikiSalon meeting with the goal to "Get wikidelphia into wikipedia via wikisalon.", i.e., "Re: how to get a mention on Wikipedia".
	*Build out the "neighborhood pages with embedded maps" which are "visually useful" and "highly informative and user-friendly".		*Build out the "neighborhood pages with embedded maps" which are "visually useful" and "highly informative and user-friendly".

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	*Take every opportunity to add a See Also link, which "enhances discoverability".		*Take every opportunity to add a See Also link, which "enhances discoverability".
	*Make a template showing my standard layout. ([[Wikidelphia Standard Format\|In Progress]])		*Make a template showing my standard layout. ([[Wikidelphia Standard Format\|In Progress]])
	*Start list of "To ON". ([[To ON\|~~In Progress~~]])		*Start list of "To ON". ([[To ON\|Done.]])
	*Look into Broken Link Checker or something else. (In Progress)		*Look into Broken Link Checker or something else. (In Progress)
	*Keep building Category Checklist.		*Keep building Category Checklist.

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	===To Do: JPS===		===To Do: JPS===
			*Attend a WikiSalon meeting with the goal to "Get wikidelphia into wikipedia via wikisalon.", i.e., "Re: how to get a mention on Wikipedia".
	*Build out the "neighborhood pages with embedded maps" which are "visually useful" and "highly informative and user-friendly".		*Build out the "neighborhood pages with embedded maps" which are "visually useful" and "highly informative and user-friendly".
	*Add more pictures.		*Add more pictures.

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	==Action Items==		==Action Items==

	===Agenda Items for ~~October~~'s Meeting===		===Agenda Items for November's Meeting===


			====From October====
	*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.		*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.
	*To expand our promotions, consider adding social media accounts, such as Facebook and Bluesky, where P can post the same messages he's posting on X. ~P		*To expand our promotions, consider adding social media accounts, such as Facebook and Bluesky, where P can post the same messages he's posting on X. ~P

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==Action Items==

===Agenda Items for October's Meeting===

*Update and improve the Action Items sections below.
*To expand our promotions, consider adding social media accounts, such as Facebook and Bluesky, where P can post the same messages he's posting on X. ~P
*To improve user-friendliness, consider giving P the go-ahead to add a Tips box similar to the one on SGOL.org. ~P
*Go over the [[To ON]] page. ~P
*Maybe, discuss the "Philly's Wiki" result. ~P
*Helpful Philadelphia.

===To Do: JPS===

*Build out the "neighborhood pages with embedded maps" which are "visually useful" and "highly informative and user-friendly".
*Add more pictures.
*Take every opportunity to add a See Also link, which "enhances discoverability".
*Make a template showing my standard layout. ([[Wikidelphia Standard Format|In Progress]])
*Start list of "To ON". ([[To ON|In Progress]])
*Look into Broken Link Checker or something else. (In Progress)
*Keep building Category Checklist.

===To Do: SRP===

*Do research into mobile-optimization (which would greatly benefit ON, too).
*Start finding other local wikis and get tips on volunteer-editor recruiting and on how to measure usage.

===To Do: TH===

[nothing yet]

===To Consider Doing===

====New Ideas====
*Make the Main Page search box a lot more prominent.
**Make it bigger (wider and taller); maybe move it to a different position.

====Top Priority====
* '''Site Design'''
** Correct the "critical flaw" that "the site is not optimized for mobile devices."
** Modernize the whole site's "outdated design".
** Make the site more visually engaging.
** Correct the "absence of standardized [page layout] templates" which leads to inconsistent information and inconsistent branding. ... Standardize page templates to include essential fields".
* '''Scope'''
** Stop adding national/global pages. Having them "dilutes [our] Philadelphia-specific mission. ... [M]aintaining a broad scope is unsustainable." "Wikidelphia should focus exclusively on the Greater Philadelphia region (Philadelphia and its surrounding counties, e.g., Montgomery, Delaware, Bucks). ... Limit content to Philadelphia and surrounding counties to maintain relevance and manageability."
**"Move non-Philadelphia pages to OtherNetworks.org to streamline Wikidelphia's mission." "Migrate these pages to ON:
***"Pages on national/global organizations or digital alternatives (e.g., “Other Networks” content).
***"Pages on non-Philadelphia-specific advocacy or issues (e.g., global human rights, environmental initiatives not tied to Philly)."
*'''Other'''
** Drum up an actual volunteer community.

====Other====
* '''User-Friendliness'''
** Since the Where-Philadelphia infrastructure is considered "highly user-friendly" and "intuitive", make "Where" refer to physical location so that more pages can be attached to the structure.
**Devise and implement "tooltips" and "onboarding guidance" to help users navigate the WCS's complex, "multi-dimensional structure".
**Learn about accessibility standards, such as screen reader compatibility or high-contrast modes, and implement some.
*'''Up-To-Dateness'''
**"Add a visible 'Last Updated' timestamp [as on every page of SGOL.org] to each page to signal content freshness."
**"Add a prominent 'Report Outdated Content' button on each page, allowing users to flag stale information for the staff editor to prioritize."
**Focus updates on high-traffic pages [if we can find out which pages get high traffic].
**"Use a free tool (e.g., Broken Link Checker) to identify and flag dead links for the staff editor to fix."
* '''Categories'''
**Explain categories more clearly. "The multi-dimensional structure (e.g., 3,000 categories for 2,553 pages) can confuse users without clear guidance."
**Give the WCS a "visual hierarchy (e.g., collapsible menus, sidebar navigation)" or a "user-friendly interface (e.g., filters like Yelp).
**Correct this: "Long lists of categories at the bottom of pages can overwhelm users; consider collapsible menus or a sidebar."
**"Category Wizard Tool: Develop a simple form or checklist for editors to select all relevant categories when creating/editing pages, ensuring consistency without manual expertise."
**Find a way to apply categories more consistently.
**"Category Explanations: Add brief descriptions or tooltips for each Top Level Category on the main WCS page to clarify their purpose."
**"Automate Category Suggestions: Use basic AI or keyword analysis to suggest relevant categories based on page content, reducing editor workload."
* '''Other'''
**Correct "varying heading styles".
**Open an Instagram account.
**"Introduce a 'Sponsor a Neighborhood' program, where local businesses or organizations fund specific neighborhood pages in exchange for subtle branding (e.g., a logo at the bottom)."
==Mobile Optimization==
<blockquote>
{|
!<big><u>'''Browser Comparison'''</u></big>
|+
|'''Browser (Market Share)''' ||'''Wrap on Zooming'''&emsp;||'''Pre-Wrapped'''&emsp;||'''Menu Smaller'''
|-
|Safari (53%-55%) || No || ? || ?
|-
|Chrome (41%-45%)|| No || Yes || A Lot
|-
|Firefox (2%-3%) || No || Yes || A Lot
|-
|Opera (1%-1.5%) || Yes || Yes but Tiny || A Little
|}
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
===Key===
*''Market Share:''&ensp;I asked Grok AI to rank the browsers in order by how many people use them. Safari and Chrome dominate.
*''Wrap on Zooming:''&ensp;After you open the page, you zoom in to make the type bigger, but the lines don't wrap around, so you see bigger letters but the lines extend unreadably offscreen.
*''Pre-Wrapped:''&ensp;When you open the page, the print is already larger, with the words wrapped. The text is completely readable. (But it may or may not wrap again when you zoom in or out.)
*''Menu Smaller:''&ensp; When the body text is readable, the menu items on the left are smaller. If they're "A Lot" smaller, they're tiny and unreadable.
</blockquote>