Wikidelphia Meeting 2025 March
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These notes come from a Wikidelphia meeting held on 2025 March 6. Present were Wikidelphia Instigator Stan Pokras (S), Staff Editor Paul Sank (P), and volunteer Ted Hewson (T).
9:00 PM
S: How to make this thing make money?
T: One strategy ... Next week in this RIS meeting we were having ...
Every other week with various sources of resource info—findhelp, 211, upliftme (upcoming). Purpose:
- Build relationships with them.
- How they're entering info, vetting.
- Find opportunities for cooperation.
Finding strengths and weaknesses of different tools. We'll do it with Wikidelphia. Matt Williams, etc. Identify gaps, opportunities for sharing info. An asset of Wikidelphia is the depth and breadth of what's listed. Maybe that can lead to opportunities for some sort of investment.
A good guy for that question would be Matt.
S: Define "gaps".
T: What's not being done.
s: back up. the org that carries all the businesses, do they fall into a categ o similar resrcs? name? not Zoom. the restaurant source.
t: that's one.
s: we should have them in Wikidelphia.
p: what's the name? {not found}
t: ... as we explore the area of food.
s: yelp. i tried restaurants on Google. 10 best on trip advisor. something under "venues". you've been researching.
t: not like I should.
s: but you're doing something with peo who want cart space.
t: there are some I want to approach. haven't done it yet.
the venue for the next ccc mtg wants to host c'ty events.
p: [mentions Does-Facility_Rentals]
t: this is for places that want commty events specfcly
s: "See Also"
s: how might we expand from Wikid from service to charities up to having businesses ... places not usually thought of as commercial. useful to have a way to org'ze businesses that serve the underserved population
t: yeah.
t: good about Wikid that ...
s: I'm sleep-deprived, the neurologist says. so I nap a lot. he wants me to do physical therapy; sleep more; see my sleep doctor; maybe a new CPAP.
t: all the more reason to involve other peop. so there may be possblities with the other resource sharers. bring providers together to learn about diffrnt sources incl Wikid, and how to use it.
s: talking to libraries is still good.
t: nicole in haverford supposdly will get me in touch with a libary consortium. i see her once/month, so I can remind.
s: a series of mtgs of Germantown library staff. I haven't been to many East Oak Lane library meetgs.
t: I'll do that if you like.
s: I'll suggest it to Michael. he can probably hook us up with regional library meetings. the east oak lane one has faded out.
t: i'll be glad to talk to whoever.
summit purpose: have a much larger gatherg.
s: to-do: develop a plan for presenting this kind of program.
t: on march 21 ... matt's coming, sue altman from findhelp, try to recruit peope to help put somtg togthr.
s: at some point we could put up a curriculum and offer it to the 60 libraries in Phila.
if we devlp somtg unique, it would be fun.
t: sounds great, but it's hopefully part of the outcome of this work group I've been in.
s: MI2?
t: no, MI2 is doing ... RIS is the name I've given it, meetg biweekly. i have to start making connections. ... /cap/ for kids. ...
t: the 2 meetings I see coming up over the next 4 weeks. two more beyond next Tues. then summarize and what are next steps? a training curriculum? ...
s: we have a Ted Hewson page and a What's Ted doing now? it would be useful for you to let P and i know what you're organizing.
t: i should probably look at that page and update it.
i've been reaching out to Alvin /tull/. ___ said he got a busy line. ... that's a work group that's sorta stuck.
s: worked for a while. jim faded away.
t: maybe call some other peopl
s: the lady who interviewed alvin's community?
[battery issue]
t: [details of his calendar]. are any of those Wednesdays good for you? (RIS group).
s: wed the 12th. time?
t: 2:30-4. with uplifme's Katrina
the 26th. i propose mar 26 and apr 9, the target dates for the next 2 RIS mtgs. 3:00. late afternoon.
t: thank you for setting up PFV. they're doing some good things. thanks.
p: y're welcom
t: i recall we mentioned followup with libraries. that's continuing. then there's a mtg--i've talked about RIS, trying to recruit peop to plan an event to share the results of that work. ... one community mtg where THEY can share too. maybe a chance to introduce AI for nonprofits. a United Way person is willing to come in to present.
s: isn't Matt into that stuff?
t: yes. that's part of the oppties we want to explore. use of AI to integrate some o these tools and help respond to needs of others.
matt is interesting. has a lot of big ideas, why i'd be interested in his thoughts about wikid-$$.
next step ... i'm stil concerned in terms of its continued reliance on [s]. avoiding situation of a few weeks ago when the website shut down.
i know it's hard but we want a way to notify key players--to a secondary contact who can act on your behalf.
s: can you handle [the cost]?
t: i already invested $600 into a site problem.
s: they were calling us spammers.
t: ...
s: i still keep getting messages "this is going to happen" ... dont' know why i keep getting them
t: it's been working fine. I've sent out 100s of emails.
the other thing i've done ... computer ... upload to YouTube
s: ?
t: when we have meetings, we record and upload. to save you from having to deal with any of the disk space. i'm no longer using your Zoom space.
the other area ... matt wms set up another Zoom i can use, i'll try at next RIS mtg. another way I'll have access to Zoom for metgs
s: i have a bunch of recordings i need to get off /live-ohss/.
t: i think I have more recent ones. my wife wants me to declutter.
t: what i ask of you is to have an alternate contact.
i too want to see what comes out of these discussns.
s: there was a national movement of local wikis. we could tune in to that. i should invite you to join the Philadelphia Wikipedia Group. 2 or 3 are librarians, 1 a techie, i keep forgetting to reach out with questions, and now I can't remember the questions.
p: they have so many rules, it seems doubtful.
s: 1000s of rules. some call the Wikipedia peopl snobs.
...
t: if we can get collaborations going, we could maybe include Wikid in seeking funding.
t: first i have to finish the RIS [calendar].
s: weird, I've been thinking about a nonprofit dating service. would be popular. no charge, just donations.
t: that's a business venture. ... right now i think our job is to highlight biz ventures and other happenings ... having investment enough to make sure everything's current.
s: ...
[talk about updating Wikid pages. I've been doing it.]
s: starting to think about how to handle emails of peop we want to stay in touch with.
[talk about how I add email addresses of subjects]
s: we want to have a way to broadcast. using categ sys, we can single out specific recipient groups.
t: the more we can automate that sort of things, the better.
p: [5 minute warning]
s: put these notes on Wikid by date. categ In-House Meeting. [JPS to-do]
t: I just uploaded a video ... didn't do it right. ...
s: ... [details]
t: for followup ...
alternate contact
s: set up time for you and I to write up the memo we started last year. have a version for [...]
t: sunday night
s: we separated bluehost out of the mix. cityhosting carries wikid and other netwks.
s: we're on the way towards engagement of Phila in the network of networks. the dream system. idea to use bots to maintain certain kinds of relationships.
t: goal, keep up relationships. ... see how things unfold. hopefully you're reserved those two dates[, stan].
s: [writes on his calendar]
t: i'll send out invites when we know [enough about what's in the meeting].
t: i may ask P to help update the Google Sheet about Wikid.
s: i've been like long COVID. this week on HR was about vaccines and the problems with reporting and mandates. a book on Vaccine Court, investigating all the lawsuits. now we have RFK Jr helping. HR wasn't allowed to talk about vaccines without getting kicked off of YouTube.
s: tomorrow is about children.
t: needs balanced discussion. not all vaccines are all bad.
s: today's episode good for learning what RFK can/can't get done. author has son who still can't talk at 25yo-35yo after the vaccine.
[more vax talk]